Did Oswald Act Alone – Still Undecided?

LBJ and J. Edgar Hoover
Conspire to Cover-up the Crime of the Century
Telephonic Conversation Provides Proof!

did-oswald-act-aloneThis is clearly some of the most damning evidence ever captured on tape from the Oval Office. It makes the NIXON Smoking Gun tape look like a game of “Charades” — Here, the President [LBJ] discusses obstructing justice with the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, one week after the assassination.

You say the Magic Bullet Theory is true?  Non-sense!

Just this ONE sentence from Hoover’s mouth, on the day the FBI would conclude their investigation and give Johnson their report, which took place only hours before LBJ announced to the public his having appointed the Warren Commission to submit a report to him and the American People which would evaluate the FBI’s investigation and conclusions:

HOOVER QUOTE:

“The President then asked, if Connally had not been in his seat, would the President [JFK] have been hit by the second shot? I said yes… he no doubt would have been hit by ALL THREE SHOTS!”

Did Oswald Act Alone?

There is NO question as to the cover-up that the two of them conspired to initiate and perpetuate. At no time was CONNALLY in a position to “take a bullet” for JFK! How could Connally (in front of JFK) ever have been between OSWALD and JFK to have shielded JFK from ANY shots? Later LBJ asks:  “So, if Connally hadn’t *been in the way* would the president have been hit by all three shots?” Again, Hoover replies: “YES” — to that as well. Don’t take my word for it. Listen to the whole conversation.

Hoover says that OSWALD’s gun was found on the 5th floor, (NOT the SIXTH) no less than a half a dozen times. He says that FOUR (4) shells were found there [5th floor], NOT THREE (3) shells – That three were spent shells and one was unspent. It was not fired because of a dent or defect in its base… etc.

Below is an internal memo from J. Edgar Hoover to his top eight (8) assistants, summarizing in great detail, his conversation.

 


UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
WASHINGTON, D.C.
 

1:39 p.m.
November 29, 1963

MEMORANDUM FOR MR. TOLSON
MR. BELMONT
MR. MOHR
MR. CONRAD
MR. DE LOACH
MR. EVANS
MR. ROSEN
MR. SULLIVAN

The President called and asked if I am familiar with the proposed
group they are trying to get to study my report – two from the House,
two from the Senate, two from the courts, and a couple of outsiders. I
replied that I had not heard of that but had seen reports from the
Senate Investigating Committee.

The President stated he wanted to get by just with my file and my
report. I told him I thought it would be very bad to have a rash of
investigations. He then indicated the only way to stop it is to
appoint a high-level committee to evaluate my report and tell the House
and Senate not to go ahead with the investigation. I stated that would
be a three-ring circus.

The President then asked what I think about Allen Dulles, and I
replied that he is a good man. He then asked about John McCloy, and I
stated I am not as enthusiastic about McCloy, that he is a good man but
I am not so certain as to the matter of publicity he might want. The
President then mentioned General (Lauris) Norstad, and I said he is a
good man. He said in the House he might try (Hale) Boggs and (Gerald
R.) Ford and in the Senate (Richard B.) Russell and (John Sherman)
Cooper. I asked him about Cooper and he indicated Cooper of Kentucky
whom he described as a judicial man, stating he would not want (Jacob
K.) Javits. I agreed on this point. He then reiterated Ford of
Michigan, and I indicated I know of him but do not know him and had
never seen him except on television the other day and that he handled
himself well on television. I indicated that I do know Boggs.

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Memorandum for Messrs. Tolson, Belmont, Mohr, November 29, 1963
Conrad, DeLoach, Evans, Rosen, Sullivan

The President then mentioned that (Walter) Jenkins had told him that
I have designated Mr. DeLoach to work with them as he had on the Hill.
He indicated they appreciated that and just wanted to tell me they
consider Mr. DeLoach as high class as I do, and that they salute me for
knowing how to pick good men.

I advised the President that we hope to have the investigation
wrapped up today but probably won’t have it before the first of the week
as an angle in Mexico is giving trouble – the matter of Oswald’s getting
$6500 from the Cuban Embassy and coming back to this country with it;
that we are not able to prove that fact; that we have information he
was there on September 18 and we are able to prove he was in New Orleans
on that date; that a story came in changing the date to September 28
and he was in Mexico on the 28th. I related that the police have again
arrested Duran, a member of the Cuban Embassy; that they will hold her
two or three days; will confront her with the original informant; and
will also try a lie detector test on her.

The President then inquired if I pay any attention to the lie
detector test. I answered that I would not pay 100% attention to them;
that it was only a psychological asset in investigation; that I would
not want to be a part of sending a man to the chair on a lie detector
test. I explained that we have used them in bank investigations and a
person will confess before the lie detector test is finished, more or
less fearful it will show him guilty. I said the lie detector test has
this psychological advantage. I further stated that it is a misnomer to
call it a lie detector since the evaluation of the chart made by the
machine is made by a human being and any human being is apt to make the
wrong interpretation.

I stated, if Oswald had lived and had take a lie detector test, this
with the evidence we have would have added that much strength to the
case; that these is no question he is the man.

I also told him that Rubenstein down there has offered to take a lie
detector test but his lawyer must be consulted first; that I doubt the
lawyer will allow him to do so; that he has a West Coast lawyer
somewhat like the Edward Bennett Williams type and almost as much of a
shyster.

The President asked if we have any relationship between the two
(Oswald and Rubenstein) as yet. I replied that at the present time we have

– 2 –

Memorandum for Messrs. Tolson, Belmont, Mohr, November 29, 1963

Conrad, DeLoach, Evans, Rosen, Sullivan

not; that there was a story that the fellow had been in Rubenstein’s
nightclub but it has not been confirmed. I told the President that
Rubenstein is a very seedy character, had a bad record – street brawls,
fights, etc.; that in Dallas, if a fellow came into his nightclub and
could not pay his bill completely, Rubenstein would beat him up and
throw him out; that he did not drink or smoke; that he was an
egomaniac; that he likes to be in the limelight; knew all of the
police officers in the white light district; let them come in and get
food and liquor, etc.; and that is how I think he got into police
headquarters. I said if they ever made any move, the pictures did not
show it even when they saw him approach and he got right up to Oswald
and pressed the pistol against Oswald’s stomach; that neither officer
on either side made any effort to grab Rubenstein – not until after the
pistol was fired. I said, secondly, the chief of police admits he moved
Oswald in the morning as a convenience and at the request of motion
picture people who wanted daylight. I said insofar as tying Rubenstein
and Oswald together, we have not yet done so; that there are a number
of stories which tied Oswald to the Civil Liberties Union in New York in
which he applied for membership and to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee
which is pro-Castro, directed by communists, and financed to some extent
by the Castro Government.

The President asked how many shots were fired, and I told him three.
He then asked if any were fired at him. I said no, that three shots
were fired at the President and we have them. I stated that our
ballistic experts were able to prove the shots were fired by this gun;
that the President was hit by the first and third bullets and the second
hit the Governor; that there were three shots; that one complete
bullet rolled out of the President’s head; that it tore a large part of
the President’s head off; that in trying to massage his heart on the
way into the hospital they loosened the bullet which fell on the
stretcher and we have that.

He then asked were they aimed at the President. I replied they were
aimed at the President, no question about that.

I further advised him that we have also tested the fact you could
fire those three shots in three seconds. I explained that there is a
story out that there must have been more than one man to fire several
shots but we have proven it could be done by one man.

The President then asked how it happened that Connally was hit. I
explained that Connally turned to the President when the first shot was
fired and in that turning he got hit. The President then asked, if
Connally had not been in his seat, would the President have been hit by
the second shot. I said yes.

– 3 –

Memorandum for Messrs. Tolson, Belmont, Mohr, November 29, 1963
Conrad, DeLoach, Evans, Rosen, Sullivan

I related that on the fifth floor of the building where we found the
gun and the wrapping paper we found three empty shells that had been
fired and one that had not been fired. that he had four but didn’t fire
the fourth; then threw the gun aside; went down the steps; was seen
by a police officer; the manager told the officer that Oswald was all
right, worked there; they let him go; he got on a bus; went to his
home and got a jacket; then came back downtown, walking; the police
officer who was killed stopped him, not knowing who he was; and he
fired and killed the police officer.

The President asked if we can prove that and I answered yes.

I further related that Oswald then walked another two blocks; went
to the theater; the woman selling tickets was so suspicious – said he
was carrying a gun when he went into the theater – that she notified the
police; the police and our man went in and located Oswald. I told him
they had quite a struggle with Oswald but that he was subdued and shown
out and taken to police headquarters.

I advised the President that apparently Oswald had come down the
steps from the fifth floor; that apparently the elevator was not used.

The President then indicated our conclusions are: (1) he is the one
who did it; (2) after the President was hit, Governor Connally was hit;
(3) the President would have been hit three times except for the fact
that Governor Connally turned after the first shot and was hit by the
second; (4) whether he was connected with the Cuban operation with
money we are trying to nail down. I told him that is what we are trying
to nail down; that we have copies of the correspondence; that none of
the letters dealt with any indication of violence or assassination; that
they were dealing with a visa to go back to Russia.

I advised the President that his wife had been very hostile, would not

cooperate and speaks only Russian; that yesterday she said, if we could
give assurance she would be allowed to remain in the country, she would
cooperate; and that I told our agents to give that assurance and sent a
Russian-speaking agent to Dallas last night to interview her. I said I do
not know whether or not she has any information but we would learn
what we could.
The President asked how Oswald had access to the fifth floor of the

building. I replied that he had access to all floors.  The President
asked where was his office and I stated he did not have any particular
place;

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Memorandum for Messrs. Tolson, Belmont, Mohr, November 29, 1963

Conrad, DeLoach, Evans, Rosen, Sullivan

that he was not situated in any particular place; that he was just a general
packer of requisitions that came in for books from Dallas schools; that
he would have had proper access to the fifth and sixth floors whereas
usually the employees were down on lower floors. The President then
inquired if anybody saw him on the fifth floor, and I stated he was seen
by one of the workmen before the assassination.

The President then asked if we got a picture taken of him shooting
the gun and I said no. He asked what was the picture sold for $25,000,
and I advised him this was a picture of the parade showing Mrs. Kennedy
crawling out of the back seat; that there was no Secret Service Agent
on the back of the car; that in the past they have added steps on the
back of the car and usually had an agent on either side standing on the
bumper; that I did not know why this was not done – that the President
may have requested it; that the bubble top was not up but I understand
the bubble top was not worth anything because it was made entirely of
plastic; that I had learned much to my surprise that the Secret Service
does not have any armored cars.

The President asked if I have a bulletproof car and I told him I
most certainly have. I told him we use it here for my own use and,
whenever we have any raids, we make use of the bulletproof car on them.
I explained that it is a limousine which has been armorplated and that
it looks exactly like any other car. I stated I think the President
ought to have a bulletproof car; that from all I understand the Secret
Service has had two cars with metal plates underneath the car to take
care of hand grenades or bombs thrown out on the street. I said this is
European; that there have been several such attempts on DeGaulle’s
life; but they do not do that in this country; that all assassinations
have been with guns; and for that reason I think very definitely the
President ought to always ride in a bulletproof car; that it certainly
would prevent anything like this ever happening again; but that I do
not mean a sniper could not snipe him from a window if he were exposed.

The President asked if I meant on his ranch he should be in a
bulletproof car. I said I would think so; that the little car we rode
around in when I was at the ranch should be bulletproofed; that it
ought to be done very quietly. I told him we have four bulletproof cars
in the Bureau: one on the West Coast, one in New York and two here. I
said this could be done quietly without publicity and without pictures
taken of it if handled properly and I think he should have one on his
ranch.

– 5 –

Memorandum for Messrs. Tolson, Belmont, Mohr, November 29, 1963
Conrad, DeLoach, Evans, Rosen, Sullivan

The President then asked if I think all the entrances should be guarded.
I replied by all means, that he had almost to be in the capacity of a
so-called prisoner because without that security anything could be done.
I told him lots of phone calls had been received over the last four or five
days about threats on his life; that I talked to the Attorney General about
the funeral procession from the White House to the Cathedral; that I was
opposed to it. The President remarked that the Secret Service told them
not to but the family wanted to do it.

I stated that was what the Attorney General told me but I was very much
opposed to it. I further related that I saw the procession from the Capitol
to the White House on Pennsylvania and, while they had police standing
on the curbs, when the parade came, the police turned around and looked
at the parade.

The President then stated he is going to take every precaution he can;
that he wants to talk to me; and asked if I would put down my thoughts.
He stated I was more than head of the FBI – I was his brother and his
personal friend; that he knew I did not want anything to happen to his
family; that he has more confidence in me than anybody in town; that
he would not embroil me in a jurisdictional dispute; but that he did want
to have my thoughts on the matter to advocate as his own opinion.

I stated I would be glad to do this for him and that I would do anything
I can. The President expressed his appreciation.

Very truly yours,

[signed J. E. H.]

John Edgar Hoover
Director

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6 Comments

  1. Seems puzzling that Hoover made that statement about the 2nd bullet hitting Gov. Connally. “[A]fter the President was hit, Governor Connally was hit; (3) the President would have been hit three times except for the fact that Governor Connally turned after the first shot and was hit by the second.” Hover must have watched the [original] Zapruder film to know such detail. Gov. Connally unequivocally maintained until he died that he was hit by a separate bullet; Hoover confirms Connally’s assertion. What is puzzling, however, is what Hoover says to Pres. Johnson regarding all the shots hitting Pres. Kennedy. Oswald allegedly fired all three shots from behind Pres. Kennedy. How did Gov. Connelly’s moving affect Pres. Kennedy getting hit by all three bullets? Answer: The ONLY possibility for such a scenario is a sniper firing from the front. Johnson’s question exposes such knowledge. Hoover’s response confirms his own knowledge of such a shooter placed in front of the motorcade. It is evident shots were fired at JFK from a position in front of the motorcade. This seminal conversation between Pres. Johnson and FBI Director Hoover defines the tenor of the subsequent investigation. Johnson, after leaving the White House, recanted the official Warren Omission and clearly stood in the conspiracy camp – yet he was not called a “conspiracy buff.”
    Despite both LBJ and JEH being megalomaniacs and professional panderers, one would think between the two of them that justice was served. They tortuously pinned the assassination on poor Lee Harvey Oswald, despite the Mexico incident! Behind the scenes, (government) Agencies were fiercely changing facts to fit the contrives scenarios. Hoover knows just what he should tell LBJ to convince him (LBJ) the he (Hoover) is an ace investigator and his up on his facts. Really? Repeatedly referring to the 5th floor as the site from where the bullets were fired; Hoover states FBI has 4 bullets, yet claims only three were fired (one shell was defective, but has no bullet attached); that ONLY one employee (Charles Givens, a drug using liar) saw Oswald before lunch time; and that Oswald walked from the 5th floor after firing all the shots, was seen by a policeman (and by Roy Truly, and at least 5 other TSBD employees before AND after the shooting); that Oswald was a member of the Civil Liberties Union and Fair Play for Cuba supported by Communists; that Oswald was given $6,500 at the Cuban embassy and returned to the United States. Hoover, essentially, was feeding Johnson a “CIA pre-packaged, Phase II, assassination propaganda scenario. Oswald, while in DPD custody (Capt. Will Fritz, ace interrogator) admitted to going to Tijuana, Mexico, but not Mexico City. He did, earlier in 1963, write to the Russian Embassy about a Visa. This writer has grave doubts that Oswald was ever at either the Cuban or Russian embassies or in Mexico City. The timing, people, and languages don’t support a “Oswald in Mexico” hypothesis. It sounds more like CIA intrigue to bolster their propaganda designed to entrap Johnson into launching a military response against Cuba. At this point Hoover exposes the CIA fraud. Hoover tells LBJ that the picture and voice purported by CIA to be Oswald “is NOT that man’s picture and not that man’s voice.” Despite this awareness, Hoover goose steps in sync with the mounting “official” version of events surrounding the 11/22/63 coup d’e’tat against JFK. These two were arch-political enemies of JFK, for various reasons; yet, LBJ and JEH sat on their phones and essentially conspired on “the mythological facts” that later morphed into the “official version” fed to the sheeple of America, but cooly received by an unbelieving world audience.

    • It is extremely gratifying to know that others–outside of the mainstream research community–like yourself, are capable of critical analysis of this evidence. While Johnson and Hoover were discussing the “evidence” regarding the murder that had just taken place a week earlier, here we are–50+ years later–finally discussing some of the strongest evidence against both LBJ and JEH, indicating they participated in obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct in a capital crime. Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty often pointed out to me and others the significance of one of the questions asked by Johnson, namely: “Were any of the shots fired at me?” This is important for more than one reason. First, it was a violation of Secret Service protocol to have both the President and the Vice President potentially “under the same guns” by having them ride in the same motorcade. Unless the motorcade was taking place in Washington, DC., where security can be almost completely controlled, they do not ride in the same motorcade risking a double assassination thus crippling the Executive Branch until the Speaker of the House takes over. The amount of turmoil caused by the single assassination was considerable–actually it was extreme–but it would have been all out mayhem had it been a double hit. The American People would have felt as though they were under siege. Rightly. And the Joint Chiefs would have been looking for someone to nuke. Keep in mind this was taking place at the very height of the Cold War only 13 months following the Cuban Missile Crisis. So why would the VP be allowed to ride “under the same guns” in the first place? Was there a reason? It could not have been accidental. These security arrangements are carefully thought out months in advance. And why was Connally shot and not LBJ? Connally was not hit as a result of a missed shot. He was targeted. Why? Remember, Connally was one of LBJ’s best friends. So shooting Connally sent a very clear message to LBJ that day, namely: “This could’ve just as easily been you!” It was that “message” that caused LBJ’s concern and his question to Hoover: “Were any of the shots fired at me?” Those in the cabal that had it in for JFK made sure that there was no misunderstanding between them and Johnson. Johnson most certainly had foreknowledge. He may have even thought he was in charge of it, so to speak. The shots that hit his best friend, John Connally, were instructive indeed. He was not nor would he ever be “in charge” of anything. If he was unclear as to his role up to that point, he no longer had any doubt. From then on, and perhaps for the first time in his life, LBJ realized: He didn’t give orders. He took them.

  2. My spelling and grammar are inexcusable. I humbly apologize to those who read this post; however, the essence of the post remains unchanged. Thank you.

  3. “The President then asked, if Connally had not been in his seat, would the President [JFK] have been hit by the second shot? I said yes… he no doubt would have been hit by ALL THREE SHOTS!”

    J. Edgar Hoover’s statement above is supported by Dan Rather’s report of seeing Governor Connally’s jacket hanging open which exposed his chest to the gunman . It would appear that both Hoover and Rather had seen the original Z film and thought the kill shots had originated from a place to the front of the Lincoln.

    Is it possible that they were right?….Could a bullet fired from the front have struck JBG’s wrist and shattered, sending the main portion through JBC chest?

    • Mr. Cakebread,

      That Hoover told LBJ that Connally was struck by a bullet that would have hit JFK if “Connally hadn’t been in the way” indicates that Hoover was aware of at least one shot that originated from the front and so informed LBJ. This means that both men were then aware that JFK was assassinated as the result of a conspiracy and that both men (Hoover and LBJ) participated in the subsequent conspiracy to obstruct justice by covering up that fact. Your “theory” as to the resultant wounds to Connally are speculation.

  4. I suspect the cmnoemt is more reflective of his age than anything else. Being involved in the Warren Commission investigation was probably the seminal event of his political life. Non-baby boomers probably didn’t have a clue what he was talking about. To them that’s irrelevant ancient history.

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